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by koma on 2004-10-01 07:18:26
lol
Tolkien as a Reference
by Faolan on 2004-11-01 20:54:39
You say that Tolkien may not be held as a reference for the history of a race. Period. You say that Tolkien is fiction, not history. I do not totally agree. Whereas Tolkien did indeed publish his books as fiction works, does this mean that we must rule out the possiblity that Tolkien might have been someone who had been awakened for some great length of time, and maybe the inspiration for the works he put forth may have been his memories of various past lives. I believe that Tolkien could be taken as a reference, but taken with a rather large grain of salt. While many would say they are just totally fiction, I think that for a history as extensive as he wrote, it would have taken much more than merely imagination.
by Wayne L on 2006-04-07 10:25:02
The Lord of the Rings is the keeper of the Holy Grail-------->O
www.laughingowl.com/grail/grailchapters.htm
by Raine on 2004-11-02 18:09:53
I think he can be a reference.
tolkien.is.not.a.reference.
by Zel on 2004-12-06 21:58:47
Wow. That was really well said. I completely agree, and have thought about it before, being myself a huge fan of Tolkien as well as some of the older myths. But of course anytime I tried to put something like that into words it came out sounding stupid; I am glad someone finally mentioned it in a coherent way!
Pantheistic Solipsism
by Dodger on 2005-02-06 01:58:06
Nothing can prove that the worlds created by Tolkein, Tad Williams, and others, aren't real, somewhere.
Maybe they are, and that's how those authors know about them.
B^)
Maybe they are, and that's how those authors know about them.
B^)
by scott on 2006-04-15 01:02:52
Then again, maybe it's just fiction...?
I was 17 when I first read the trilogy. I wanted so badly to believe that Middle Earth was real. Tolkien sure made it seem so.
I was 17 when I first read the trilogy. I wanted so badly to believe that Middle Earth was real. Tolkien sure made it seem so.
by Nega on 2006-04-15 13:08:10
If I make a very extensive pile of coherent books, you'd say that you can't rule out those things as not real. Well, let's think that all the lies can be truth. It's the same thing.
The point is: you can't rule out ANYTHING as not true, if someone gives you the sufficient amount of excuses about its "weak points".... even if no one gives you any excuses.
That doesn't mean that is a wise idea to not rule out anything as impossible. Au contraire.
The point is: you can't rule out ANYTHING as not true, if someone gives you the sufficient amount of excuses about its "weak points".... even if no one gives you any excuses.
That doesn't mean that is a wise idea to not rule out anything as impossible. Au contraire.
by reality on 2006-04-15 23:45:46
I think it is sad that all of you people have developed such a huge obesession with The Lord of the Rings that you can no longer determine fiction from non-fiction. I don't completely understand the encompassing theme in this book, but what I do know is that if you believe that there is actually a layer between our earth's crust and inner core where a whole civilization lives then you are on some serious acid. Though...the idea of life on another planet is not totally unrealistic.
by Corvomyn on 2006-04-20 03:10:13
As far as I'm concerned, every possible arrangement of atoms exist simultaneously in other universes. That means every possible combination of our [relative] fiction and myth actually exists, just in different universes. At least that is what current astrophysical science suggests. Nothing is impossible :D
by Tim Osburn on 2006-06-02 04:21:22
MidGard, "Middle Earth", is the term the northern/viking cultures used to describe the earth in which we actually live. They posited there was a world above us and another world below us, but the world we lived in, the middle world, was in the branches of the great tree Igdrasil. Thus, Middle Earth is merely another name for this place we all live in, on the surface of the planet. Is that too tough for you to grasp? What a specious criticism.
by holmes on 2006-04-21 13:51:36
well middle earth does not probably mean between the crust and earth's core .It must mean some place on earth's surface .just like 'Middle East'is a place on earths surface.
by Dark Goob on 2006-05-07 17:47:08
Tolkien lived in S. Africa during apartheid. I don't think he's a very good source on issues of race!
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by Writer on 2006-05-23 07:20:26
I am a writer and i am making a very well developed story about a distant star system with four habited planets with detailed cultures and a language. Now, just because I am making this story does that mean that star system really exist somewhere? Maybe. It depends on who you believe. But does that mean that I am being inspired by that place? I doubt it. I know this is coming from my imagination and I am sure it was the same with Tolkien. If you believe in the theory of parallel universes, then sure it Middle Earth probably does exist somewhere out there, but that doesn't mean that's where Tolkien got the idea from.
by Inspirit on 2006-05-26 19:00:47
What is 'real'? Many schools of thought would indicate that all thought is 'real'... therefore perhaps it is possible that every 'imaginary' world, every 'imagining' for that matter, is real.