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by call me Zar'lianna on 2002-02-08 16:28:20
Salve, Vendue, Epharisto, Acheyla, Hello in whatever you speak.....
I am sort of a (no word here to describe).... well.....its not that important because I am what I am and that is all the end... so far....I'm just new into knowing what this is... not new in being new but ta.....I just feel like I have to tell everything lol
Anyway..... in response to the text...... Every person has a right to claim royalty. Here's an example. okay no offense to humans but thus far in its current sad possition it is improbable (nothings impossible) to have a communist state due to human nature. However..... on a figuritive level it most definitally exists.. think of it this way.... in a communist community everyone is equal, both ruler and the microbes clinging to the dirt on the leaf out side your front door in the nearest forest. Most people think of rulers as the most affecting people in existance..... (while I deny that there is no such thing as solid fact and the word impossible is a lie).. I will say that this thought on one level is possibly a misconception. Every dew drop affects the shimmer on the spiders web and every wind the turn of the weaver. Every thing affects the out come.... in this way everyone is equal..... everyone is royal and has claim to be so.... (I am bias because of my God and thus this is in contrast with my next statement).... everything is equal.
Sorry about this being copious with language..... I just felt like I needed to put in thoughts even if no one reads them....
-Zar'lianna
Farosrinesvare Laristira
Farosrinesvare Harospariay
Farosrinesvare Derasrikarnarelvstar
Farosrinesvare Aslar
I am sort of a (no word here to describe).... well.....its not that important because I am what I am and that is all the end... so far....I'm just new into knowing what this is... not new in being new but ta.....I just feel like I have to tell everything lol
Anyway..... in response to the text...... Every person has a right to claim royalty. Here's an example. okay no offense to humans but thus far in its current sad possition it is improbable (nothings impossible) to have a communist state due to human nature. However..... on a figuritive level it most definitally exists.. think of it this way.... in a communist community everyone is equal, both ruler and the microbes clinging to the dirt on the leaf out side your front door in the nearest forest. Most people think of rulers as the most affecting people in existance..... (while I deny that there is no such thing as solid fact and the word impossible is a lie).. I will say that this thought on one level is possibly a misconception. Every dew drop affects the shimmer on the spiders web and every wind the turn of the weaver. Every thing affects the out come.... in this way everyone is equal..... everyone is royal and has claim to be so.... (I am bias because of my God and thus this is in contrast with my next statement).... everything is equal.
Sorry about this being copious with language..... I just felt like I needed to put in thoughts even if no one reads them....
-Zar'lianna
Farosrinesvare Laristira
Farosrinesvare Harospariay
Farosrinesvare Derasrikarnarelvstar
Farosrinesvare Aslar
Uh *blink*
by th'Elf on 2002-04-04 18:10:52
In a perfect world, communism would work. Sorry, the world is not now and never has been perfect. Not 'ours' nor 'theirs'.
And communism does not confer a royal position to all. Communism doesn't encompass nor even accept Princes and Princesses, Kings and Queens.
Sorry, you read in fractured nonsequiter.
And communism does not confer a royal position to all. Communism doesn't encompass nor even accept Princes and Princesses, Kings and Queens.
Sorry, you read in fractured nonsequiter.
by Eruantalon on 2002-04-03 20:26:24
I agrre with your surmises of this phenomena. I am not of the type who remebers myself as royalty. I remember a time of twilight and stars and of roaming free in the wood. O fkinship and non-existant class differences. What i mean is we all were just elvish and that was enough.Is there any who remember a world like this as well?? I wonder.
by Lynn on 2002-05-10 19:39:22
Also, somewhere in here needs to be the mention of multiple worlds and multiple dimensions and all that stuff that makes sorting out past lives a real pain in the tush.
I've had noble and royal lives. I've also had lives where to call me a peasant is to lift my social status. In most of my cases, I'd rather remember the lower class stuff because no matter who had "life and death" authority over me, I didn't have to deal out the "life and death" authority, and that break was quite the relief.
I think many times people who remember themselves as nobility are only looking at the glamor of the position, and either block or never had a real understanding of the work and power that comes with the position. Too much of our popular perception about nobility comes from the last four or five centuries, not the previous 4500 years. Even thinking back over those 500 years or so, I find that the nobility wasn't spending all their time in play. Being a noble before titles were handed out like candy meant work, sweat, and death if the title was to be maintained.
No, I found it much safer to be in the lower ranks of society. That way, I could disappear much easier. All the pretty clothes and good food couldn't make up for that kind of freedom.
Lynn
I've had noble and royal lives. I've also had lives where to call me a peasant is to lift my social status. In most of my cases, I'd rather remember the lower class stuff because no matter who had "life and death" authority over me, I didn't have to deal out the "life and death" authority, and that break was quite the relief.
I think many times people who remember themselves as nobility are only looking at the glamor of the position, and either block or never had a real understanding of the work and power that comes with the position. Too much of our popular perception about nobility comes from the last four or five centuries, not the previous 4500 years. Even thinking back over those 500 years or so, I find that the nobility wasn't spending all their time in play. Being a noble before titles were handed out like candy meant work, sweat, and death if the title was to be maintained.
No, I found it much safer to be in the lower ranks of society. That way, I could disappear much easier. All the pretty clothes and good food couldn't make up for that kind of freedom.
Lynn
completely
by Paradox on 2002-08-09 00:47:43
I agree with you... too many "people" focus on the glamour of being royalty, totally ignoring the fact that even in human society, power=responsibility. And responsibilty is certainly neither fun nor glamourous.
by Denser also known as Brian on 2002-09-02 22:26:25
I agree with you and Nether my human side nor my elf side want the responsabilitys of being royalty. We would much rather just help to keep people safe. Kinda like a police officer though I do not trust the ability of anyone to make laws and rules so more like a freelance officer.
by Rachman Stonk the cruel Sheik on 2002-05-28 06:42:38
There should be a supreme leader giving titles to ourkind (and taking them away again if one does not act according to it).
It is not the past we should look at but the future. We got so little to loose and so much to win. We could take over this world some day! It is possible to make our dreams come true on this earth.
It is not the past we should look at but the future. We got so little to loose and so much to win. We could take over this world some day! It is possible to make our dreams come true on this earth.
by Denser Serifin otherwise known as Brin MacClellan on 2002-09-02 22:21:22
I gess I am one of the lucky few (to me at least) That does not consider him self royalty nor would I ever want to be (elf side talking he does not truly like royalty though if they prove that they do have their subjects lives in mind then he will accept them)
I am a defender of the people and those in need.
I am a ranger, shuned by the populice though I never hold a grudge against them for it.
They know they can come to me if they are ever thretened (human side can not spell so I gess I can't ether)
One note of worning, Never threaten some one who can not defend them selves around me as i will go to great lengths if need be to keep that person safe, even if this means taking your head.
Idal threats are ok but those that give a reson to belive those threats are the ones I go after.
I am a defender of the people and those in need.
I am a ranger, shuned by the populice though I never hold a grudge against them for it.
They know they can come to me if they are ever thretened (human side can not spell so I gess I can't ether)
One note of worning, Never threaten some one who can not defend them selves around me as i will go to great lengths if need be to keep that person safe, even if this means taking your head.
Idal threats are ok but those that give a reson to belive those threats are the ones I go after.
by Dustie on 2002-09-18 01:42:48
Being royalty is not all peaches and cream. I have an excellent friend whom remembers me being the person to sentence his beheading in a past life for a sexual offence. People look at me, and I fear when they look into my eyes that they will know these overwhelming responsibilities that tend to follow me from one existence to the next. I've always loved freedom, however as a "ruler" I have been a servent to my people to ensure justice and freedom to live happily is maintained. I thought in this world maybe I would escape my destiny, as I have already run from it before when asked to be the female leader of a group struggling for a better, magickal world, and yet the toll of duty still constantly dwells on my mind. I prefer to pretend I am other than who I actually am, always seeming to be unaware of who I truly am. Yet, I have perople I meet in this world constantly reminding me. There is ultimately a ton of weight placed on someone of royalty, if by birth or by chosen leader. I've experienced both. (Although I ran away to marry my master in the High Art when I was a birth right princess once.)
I guess I will conclude that I cannot stress enough that royalty does not always mean glamour and gold, but it means responsibility, watching your back, and becoming the servant to your people.
I guess I will conclude that I cannot stress enough that royalty does not always mean glamour and gold, but it means responsibility, watching your back, and becoming the servant to your people.
by Darel on 2002-12-19 09:19:14
A thought on why perhaps there are so many people with 'elven princess syndome' and suchlike. Perhaps it is because they are/were actually royals in their own time and this has had some effect on the nature of Kin reincarnation - if there are so many royals then maybe it is something to do with their royalty that has got them reincarnated as kin. Im rambling now, but i hope i got my point accross. Comprende?
Your loving elf prince/supreme being thing
'Rel
Your loving elf prince/supreme being thing
'Rel
Another Thought
by Erelin on 2004-03-02 01:59:59
I was rereading a few things, and I'd had a discussion with someone else about this earlier, so I thought I'd post my thoughts:
First, I am not one with many 'past lives.' I say this because while I have had quite a few incarnations (6 that I recall) I've had continuity of consciousness between all of them. If a form changes or if I leave it, I don't quite consider that death. 'Me' is who I am at any given moment, which is a direct result of all past forms of 'me.' 'I' never went away, so 'I' never died. Although I have left quite a few bodies behind in my travels, and changed forms at least once.
Second, I know for a fact that I am not royalty. Peasant blood all the way back. None of my previous incarnations in this continuity of consciousness have been royalty, or been able to be construed as such.
Third, I didn't get here through one of the ways that my people would consider 'standard' for getting to a place like this one. (I don't exactly know what the standard practices are, never having thought to ask to see one, but I know that how I got here is not 'normal proceedure.')
Now, as I recall, most if not all of the people who crossed over to other realms from mine were nobles. You just don't send many peasants out on diplomatic envoys or interdimensional trips. This could help to account for the fact that there is a statistically impossible number of nobles/royalty around. 1-2% of a population may be royalty/nobility, but if you only send through people from that 1 or 2 percent, statistics no longer matter. 51% of the human population of earth is women, but not one (to my knowledge) gets testicular cancer.
Now, those from different societies or with different modes of getting here might have different stories. Obviously, those with past lives may remember their more illustrious ones, or the ones that made the most impact on them. But for those 'sent,' perhaps nobility was simply an assumption.
First, I am not one with many 'past lives.' I say this because while I have had quite a few incarnations (6 that I recall) I've had continuity of consciousness between all of them. If a form changes or if I leave it, I don't quite consider that death. 'Me' is who I am at any given moment, which is a direct result of all past forms of 'me.' 'I' never went away, so 'I' never died. Although I have left quite a few bodies behind in my travels, and changed forms at least once.
Second, I know for a fact that I am not royalty. Peasant blood all the way back. None of my previous incarnations in this continuity of consciousness have been royalty, or been able to be construed as such.
Third, I didn't get here through one of the ways that my people would consider 'standard' for getting to a place like this one. (I don't exactly know what the standard practices are, never having thought to ask to see one, but I know that how I got here is not 'normal proceedure.')
Now, as I recall, most if not all of the people who crossed over to other realms from mine were nobles. You just don't send many peasants out on diplomatic envoys or interdimensional trips. This could help to account for the fact that there is a statistically impossible number of nobles/royalty around. 1-2% of a population may be royalty/nobility, but if you only send through people from that 1 or 2 percent, statistics no longer matter. 51% of the human population of earth is women, but not one (to my knowledge) gets testicular cancer.
Now, those from different societies or with different modes of getting here might have different stories. Obviously, those with past lives may remember their more illustrious ones, or the ones that made the most impact on them. But for those 'sent,' perhaps nobility was simply an assumption.
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by Tenjadedragons on 2005-06-22 13:35:08
Just as a note, most ancient societies had a higherproportion of nobility and royalty than one might think. The polish Szlachta class comprised up to 30% of the population in some areas of the country. It can be shown that a ruling class less than about 10% leads inorexably to societal fracture and revolution. In truly ancient societies and probably in pre-human civilisations too, the number of princesses would be a lot higher than that. Given that Otherkin are rare and special, why not? In fact. one could be suprised that more past lives were not elven princesses. With regards to the responsibility bit, a bit of trivia: The title lord actually meant 'the baker of bread' and lady meant 'the distributor of bread', both references to the charitable duties that the high psition in society demanded. Perhaps if we wish to be thought of as nobility, we should take the time to be trul noble? Blessed be y'all. TJD.
by Candre Novarya on 2007-06-02 16:58:26
Honoured friends, I come from Aristasia. I am not royal, and I know of no Aristasians of royal blood who are currently in Telluria (this human-land). As we do have some polity and organisation here as well as direction from the Motherland, such claims would come under considerable scrutiny.
However, Aristasia has four Estates: Haiela (priestly/intellectual) Raihira (noble/warrior) Magdala (craftmaids, farmers etc.) and Paccia (the bonded or servant Estate). Nearly all Aristasians incarnate here are of the Haiela/Raihira Estates. I do not find this surprising as we are here with a mission, and it is not the sort of mission that Magdala or Paccia would normally be expected to undertake.
(Incidentally, we are not as "mediaeval" as that may make us sound - our more Westerly nations are quite "modern", but have not lost touch with traditional principles as West Telluria has).
In Aristasia, as in many traditional societies, the title of Princess is not that rare. In modern Britain, only a tiny handful of people bear the title, since it only applies to people very near the throne. In all Aristasian nations there are dozens, if not hundreds, of princesses, some very far from succession (there is an Aristasian novel being serialized online currently in which one character is a princess 54th in line to the throne of Novaria).
So if other peoples are similar to ours I am not that surprised to find a scattering of princesses - a Queen would be quite a different matter!
In fact I wonder why there are no princesses among my people here - but perhaps the time has not yet come for our royalty to be deployed.
However, Aristasia has four Estates: Haiela (priestly/intellectual) Raihira (noble/warrior) Magdala (craftmaids, farmers etc.) and Paccia (the bonded or servant Estate). Nearly all Aristasians incarnate here are of the Haiela/Raihira Estates. I do not find this surprising as we are here with a mission, and it is not the sort of mission that Magdala or Paccia would normally be expected to undertake.
(Incidentally, we are not as "mediaeval" as that may make us sound - our more Westerly nations are quite "modern", but have not lost touch with traditional principles as West Telluria has).
In Aristasia, as in many traditional societies, the title of Princess is not that rare. In modern Britain, only a tiny handful of people bear the title, since it only applies to people very near the throne. In all Aristasian nations there are dozens, if not hundreds, of princesses, some very far from succession (there is an Aristasian novel being serialized online currently in which one character is a princess 54th in line to the throne of Novaria).
So if other peoples are similar to ours I am not that surprised to find a scattering of princesses - a Queen would be quite a different matter!
In fact I wonder why there are no princesses among my people here - but perhaps the time has not yet come for our royalty to be deployed.
by Ijin Kaion on 2008-02-29 04:34:32
My name is Ijin Kaion.
Many fail to recognize the truth of my existance.
Many people believe other things to be lord and master of existances wich they never even dreamt of.
while it is in fact a single entity holding together the universes, preventing them from falling to pieces.
Many who will say i do not exist in the context that i spoke of are unskilled in the recognizing of truth themselves.
Those who can recognize my name will know who and what i am.
Therefore i will make this little wager.
If you recognize me for who i am, i wil grant you access to the library of universe, a place wich holds knowledge about the universes, mainly truths.
However if you fail to recognize me i will take from you your soul.
Many who can find out will know what to do.
If you recognize me then you will not accept this wager.
if you deny the wager just because your soul is at stake then you are nobody.
if you don`t recognize me you will deny without hesitation, or accept without hesitation.
i will check again in a week to see if anyone can recognize.
if none i will place my wager more visible.
Many fail to recognize the truth of my existance.
Many people believe other things to be lord and master of existances wich they never even dreamt of.
while it is in fact a single entity holding together the universes, preventing them from falling to pieces.
Many who will say i do not exist in the context that i spoke of are unskilled in the recognizing of truth themselves.
Those who can recognize my name will know who and what i am.
Therefore i will make this little wager.
If you recognize me for who i am, i wil grant you access to the library of universe, a place wich holds knowledge about the universes, mainly truths.
However if you fail to recognize me i will take from you your soul.
Many who can find out will know what to do.
If you recognize me then you will not accept this wager.
if you deny the wager just because your soul is at stake then you are nobody.
if you don`t recognize me you will deny without hesitation, or accept without hesitation.
i will check again in a week to see if anyone can recognize.
if none i will place my wager more visible.